The obvious question is why are they scared of debate? It's how science works.
The obvious conclusion of course is they have no science.
What they seemingly apparently fail to realise is by taking this course of action the wider public as it wakes up to what's going on, has lost or is rapidly losing faith, in the medical services. I for one after the last three years simply will not believe at face value anything put forward by the NHS/MHRA/ My GP / Dept of Health etc. It has very serious ramifications for the nations health but these stone walling organisation have brought it upon themselves as trust has to be earned.My own simple first test is any organisation pushing masks as a protection again virus is instantly categorised as purveyors of guff and so nothing they then say can be trusted.
In just over half an hour... the conference team all met, read the tweet, looked through Prof Fenton's feed, made their decision to cancel him, agreed on the wording of the cancellation email and wrote said email and sent it out.
And here's me thinking the NHS was laden with immature overpaid bureaucratic charlatans. Let me get those pan handles to the front door again....
Both my parents who were medics and trained at the London Hospital Hospital in the 1950’s would 100% agree with you.
My father always called it the” power of the shroud “ Ie perceived control of life by Dr’s, but he was very dismissive of the level of knowledge of many he knew, even when I was a child.
What I’ve seen in the last three years simply confirms his view was correct.
My own Dr when I asked twice why he recommended the jab could only say it “was Government policy.”
I might be awkward but I expect a vastly better level of expertise than that displayed it seems by most in the said profession since 2020.
Well done for publicising this. It's the same playbook across all professions and across the whole world. A supremely well coordinated censorship machine, using undefined criteria to stifle science.
Authoritarianism of the highest kind - the NHS Commissairs in action!
Growing up in the 70s and 80s I remember watching the news (usually BBC back then) and it always seemed to have stories about the USSR and Soviet block. Their buildings always looked grey, their people frightened. I used to think 'I'm glad we don't live there'. I think Norman we are almost there - superficially we look different but institutionally I don't think we are.
Just keep doing your stuff - you (and your colleagues) are the hero's bringing insight to this public policy disaster. Keep challenging the narrative with your precision logic. Even if you are wrong (1 in 1000 chance in my book when I follow your logic and nrs) you should still be able to challenge the narrative in a free society. We're not anything like as free as we used to be. We are dealing with a cult that doesn't accept reason and certainly won't entertain debate (aka climate catastrophisers).
It's truly sickening (no pun intended) how a bunch of cowardly, mediocre, public sector pen-pushers can bask in their own self-importance and virtue- whilst failing to realise that the sum of their collective intellect wouldn't come close to that of the man they seek to cancel.
No no, you're not in disagreement with NHS policy.......you simply conflicted NHS values. As those values are at an extremely low level that means you must be.....even lower? Does being closer to the ground bring you nearer to the rising excrement and it's that smell which would be a distraction and not the PINK SUIT? (which I love btw, really suits you, fabulous style)
What have we learnt? That overpaid incompetent NHS execs are reading twitter posts while in high level and important meetings. Is that approriate? Not in my view, that means they are totally distracted by trivia and not the matters at hand ie the health of the nation. That needs 100% concentration not hypnotic trance states. They're running around like headless chickens except headless chickens still have more sense.
Keep going, you've got 'em! PS what are NHS values btw? Anybody know?
Aug 18, 2023·edited Aug 18, 2023Liked by Martin Neil, Norman Fenton
Dr. Fenton, Thank you for reporting, and thank you for standing strong for real science, which requires questions and open discussion-- in two words, free speech. These pusillanmous "scientists" so-called, don't let them get you down. Many of us are watching, and we will be remembering.
One more which expresses my own concerns that we in the west are trapped in a managed decline and fall, brought to us, without our consent, by a parasitical network driven by hubris, ill gotten gains, vested interests and stupidity.
As the article indicates, not nearly enough people are aware, or even willing, to acknowledge this rapid encroachment: whenever I make an attempt to discuss this with friends, they switch off, change the subject or declare that they are content to follow 'the experts'.
It's a pity the NHS values don't extend to meeting their waiting list times and not having one of Europe's worst cancer survival rates. We must give them credit for exceeding all benchmarks on the use of pronouns and the provision of safe spaces for those hurt and distressed by having to deal with patients.
Not only must they be scared as the writer below suggests--they must not be able to answer the issues you raise by providing data or evidence to support their case.
As you know our CMO was unable to answer the question I put to him "Why are we vaccinating babies?" Linkedin also found it unacceptable or unanswerable (which it is) and I remain banned. Amazing efficiency by the NHS indeed.
The obvious question is why are they scared of debate? It's how science works.
The obvious conclusion of course is they have no science.
What they seemingly apparently fail to realise is by taking this course of action the wider public as it wakes up to what's going on, has lost or is rapidly losing faith, in the medical services. I for one after the last three years simply will not believe at face value anything put forward by the NHS/MHRA/ My GP / Dept of Health etc. It has very serious ramifications for the nations health but these stone walling organisation have brought it upon themselves as trust has to be earned.My own simple first test is any organisation pushing masks as a protection again virus is instantly categorised as purveyors of guff and so nothing they then say can be trusted.
We can’t have a single voice uttering real facts...real truth now... can we?... not in a room full of liars... covering up their mistakes.
In just over half an hour... the conference team all met, read the tweet, looked through Prof Fenton's feed, made their decision to cancel him, agreed on the wording of the cancellation email and wrote said email and sent it out.
And here's me thinking the NHS was laden with immature overpaid bureaucratic charlatans. Let me get those pan handles to the front door again....
Funny how their "values" don't seem to include protecting people's health from a virtually untested, destructive pharma product.
Can't help but notice this "Jonti Peters" fellow isn't clinically qualified, but a 'data scientist' for the NHS (translation: software programmer).
The NHS should not be basing their clinical judgements upon an unqualified programmer hack's personal opinion.
Both my parents who were medics and trained at the London Hospital Hospital in the 1950’s would 100% agree with you.
My father always called it the” power of the shroud “ Ie perceived control of life by Dr’s, but he was very dismissive of the level of knowledge of many he knew, even when I was a child.
What I’ve seen in the last three years simply confirms his view was correct.
My own Dr when I asked twice why he recommended the jab could only say it “was Government policy.”
I might be awkward but I expect a vastly better level of expertise than that displayed it seems by most in the said profession since 2020.
Well done for publicising this. It's the same playbook across all professions and across the whole world. A supremely well coordinated censorship machine, using undefined criteria to stifle science.
Authoritarianism of the highest kind - the NHS Commissairs in action!
Growing up in the 70s and 80s I remember watching the news (usually BBC back then) and it always seemed to have stories about the USSR and Soviet block. Their buildings always looked grey, their people frightened. I used to think 'I'm glad we don't live there'. I think Norman we are almost there - superficially we look different but institutionally I don't think we are.
Just keep doing your stuff - you (and your colleagues) are the hero's bringing insight to this public policy disaster. Keep challenging the narrative with your precision logic. Even if you are wrong (1 in 1000 chance in my book when I follow your logic and nrs) you should still be able to challenge the narrative in a free society. We're not anything like as free as we used to be. We are dealing with a cult that doesn't accept reason and certainly won't entertain debate (aka climate catastrophisers).
Never give up.👍
Chilling. Glad you followed this up.
It's truly sickening (no pun intended) how a bunch of cowardly, mediocre, public sector pen-pushers can bask in their own self-importance and virtue- whilst failing to realise that the sum of their collective intellect wouldn't come close to that of the man they seek to cancel.
No no, you're not in disagreement with NHS policy.......you simply conflicted NHS values. As those values are at an extremely low level that means you must be.....even lower? Does being closer to the ground bring you nearer to the rising excrement and it's that smell which would be a distraction and not the PINK SUIT? (which I love btw, really suits you, fabulous style)
What have we learnt? That overpaid incompetent NHS execs are reading twitter posts while in high level and important meetings. Is that approriate? Not in my view, that means they are totally distracted by trivia and not the matters at hand ie the health of the nation. That needs 100% concentration not hypnotic trance states. They're running around like headless chickens except headless chickens still have more sense.
Keep going, you've got 'em! PS what are NHS values btw? Anybody know?
Dr. Fenton, Thank you for reporting, and thank you for standing strong for real science, which requires questions and open discussion-- in two words, free speech. These pusillanmous "scientists" so-called, don't let them get you down. Many of us are watching, and we will be remembering.
https://brownstone.org/articles/was-spengler-right-after-all/
One more which expresses my own concerns that we in the west are trapped in a managed decline and fall, brought to us, without our consent, by a parasitical network driven by hubris, ill gotten gains, vested interests and stupidity.
As the article indicates, not nearly enough people are aware, or even willing, to acknowledge this rapid encroachment: whenever I make an attempt to discuss this with friends, they switch off, change the subject or declare that they are content to follow 'the experts'.
Code red. Someone acknowledging reality in sector 7. Release the hounds.
It's a pity the NHS values don't extend to meeting their waiting list times and not having one of Europe's worst cancer survival rates. We must give them credit for exceeding all benchmarks on the use of pronouns and the provision of safe spaces for those hurt and distressed by having to deal with patients.
Not only must they be scared as the writer below suggests--they must not be able to answer the issues you raise by providing data or evidence to support their case.
As you know our CMO was unable to answer the question I put to him "Why are we vaccinating babies?" Linkedin also found it unacceptable or unanswerable (which it is) and I remain banned. Amazing efficiency by the NHS indeed.