We have to face the fact that most people are devoted to Authority in all its guises. No amount of factual information will disturb this obsession. You can lead the Hordes to Data but you cannot make them Think.
Jun 22, 2023·edited Jun 22, 2023Liked by Martin Neil, Norman Fenton
The group think is insane. Even when truly shocking evidence is staring them in the face, they cannot deal with it. This today in The Guardian: "Health bosses warn of heart disease emergency in England
Yet the vaccines, which have a known risk of heart disease that is acknowledged by the true faith believers, are not even mentioned in the article, despite the fact that it makes them a possible cause that would at the very least need serious research. It truly is astounding, and it keeps doing my head in on a daily basis. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and the vaccines are 100% safe. And woe to anyone, like professor Fenton, who questions this.
Every occurrence like this Norman is another acknowledgment that you are over target and they are either too weak to risk backing you up or they are complicit and are trying cover up.
This should be regarded as another medal in your favour!! 👏👏
Wow! When will it end. If its any consolation; (probably not) - I am finding more and more individuals who are starting to awaken to what has been happening.
The conversations are fascinating, it's like meeting someone you find attractive for the first time but not being sure that they feel the same ... you flirt around issues like children being vaccinated and mandates, then move on to polar bear populations and the medieval warm period, then CBDCs and surveillance always building up confidence ... and finally you know they are with you and you can come out and finally have an honest conversation.
The revolution will not be televised!!
I'd love to see your presentation on Bayesian networks though :-)
What has happended to Goldacre? I read Bad Pharma and Bad Science 10 years ago and whilst I didn't understand it all as not a professional in either field, I got the general gist that pharma companies use tricks and manipulaiton to get their drugs to market and a lot of other things too. In short he was on the right side of science so-to-speak. Not any more it seems. Dear Norman your stuff is way above my head but I know you are ethical and that is what counts. I also know that scientific endeavour is not about assertions and arrogance or about shutting people up, indeed it is the very opposite. The plight of Galileo Galilei comes to mind. Please stay robust.
At least you now don't have to shake hands with Goldacre.
Cancellation is all around - I used to give regular CME training sponsored by a large pharmaceutical company, whose name may or may not begin with P, and (unlike events like this) did collect rather generous fees for so doing. For years, I used to add a little gentle trolling/LOLs at the end of the day, with a look at NNT applied to statins, more to demonstrate that a statistic, like HR, that works for researchers, is basically meaningless to patients. The sponsor didn't mind much, it was usually oncologists and such like in attendance, so people already rather likely to stop rater than start patients on statins.
The last time I did this, someone instead asked me about a particular large phase 3 clinical trial of a then-prominent vaccine, also possibly sponsored by a large pharmaceutical company whose name might or might not begin with P. So I obliged with the usual issues about relying on essentially self-reported endpoints in unblindable trials, inadequate follow-up duration to conclude any clinical relevance, and the blatant undermining of the ITT principle.
For some reason, I haven't been invited back since. Can't think why.
The Ben Goldacre whose blog I used to follow (years ago now) seems to have switched sides. From highlighting 'bad medicine' & bad science to defending mad medicine & pseudo science. How & why did that happen? He certainly looks very well fed nowadays.
We have to face the fact that most people are devoted to Authority in all its guises. No amount of factual information will disturb this obsession. You can lead the Hordes to Data but you cannot make them Think.
Sort of reads like one of those babylon bee jokes.
Scientific expert on applying reasoning cancelled from conference for coming to different conclusion to the government...
The group think is insane. Even when truly shocking evidence is staring them in the face, they cannot deal with it. This today in The Guardian: "Health bosses warn of heart disease emergency in England
Charity calls for prioritisation of NHS heart care after nearly 100,000 excess deaths since March 2020." https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/22/health-bosses-warn-of-heart-disease-emergency-in-england
Yet the vaccines, which have a known risk of heart disease that is acknowledged by the true faith believers, are not even mentioned in the article, despite the fact that it makes them a possible cause that would at the very least need serious research. It truly is astounding, and it keeps doing my head in on a daily basis. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, and the vaccines are 100% safe. And woe to anyone, like professor Fenton, who questions this.
Every occurrence like this Norman is another acknowledgment that you are over target and they are either too weak to risk backing you up or they are complicit and are trying cover up.
This should be regarded as another medal in your favour!! 👏👏
Appalling. I have written to Ben Goldacre and hope many more of us will do so.
Wow! When will it end. If its any consolation; (probably not) - I am finding more and more individuals who are starting to awaken to what has been happening.
The conversations are fascinating, it's like meeting someone you find attractive for the first time but not being sure that they feel the same ... you flirt around issues like children being vaccinated and mandates, then move on to polar bear populations and the medieval warm period, then CBDCs and surveillance always building up confidence ... and finally you know they are with you and you can come out and finally have an honest conversation.
The revolution will not be televised!!
I'd love to see your presentation on Bayesian networks though :-)
Shameless. They said you're brilliant. But I guess that only applies to all healthcare decision making other than when it comes to vaccines?
What has happended to Goldacre? I read Bad Pharma and Bad Science 10 years ago and whilst I didn't understand it all as not a professional in either field, I got the general gist that pharma companies use tricks and manipulaiton to get their drugs to market and a lot of other things too. In short he was on the right side of science so-to-speak. Not any more it seems. Dear Norman your stuff is way above my head but I know you are ethical and that is what counts. I also know that scientific endeavour is not about assertions and arrogance or about shutting people up, indeed it is the very opposite. The plight of Galileo Galilei comes to mind. Please stay robust.
Professor Fenton is one of the world’s greatest truth tellers of this age. May God protect him and his family.
Apparently for every one of ‘them’ there are one million of ‘us’ which is a very hopeful statistic..
Ben Goldacre is part of the Praetorian Guard which has protected the vaccine industry from scrutiny for years, see for example: What’s behind Ben Goldacre? https://www.ageofautism.com/2010/08/whats-behind-ben-goldacre-.html
A disgraceful action. Ben Goldacre, shame on you.
Hold the Line, Professor Fenton. Your integrity and courage will prevail.
At least you now don't have to shake hands with Goldacre.
Cancellation is all around - I used to give regular CME training sponsored by a large pharmaceutical company, whose name may or may not begin with P, and (unlike events like this) did collect rather generous fees for so doing. For years, I used to add a little gentle trolling/LOLs at the end of the day, with a look at NNT applied to statins, more to demonstrate that a statistic, like HR, that works for researchers, is basically meaningless to patients. The sponsor didn't mind much, it was usually oncologists and such like in attendance, so people already rather likely to stop rater than start patients on statins.
The last time I did this, someone instead asked me about a particular large phase 3 clinical trial of a then-prominent vaccine, also possibly sponsored by a large pharmaceutical company whose name might or might not begin with P. So I obliged with the usual issues about relying on essentially self-reported endpoints in unblindable trials, inadequate follow-up duration to conclude any clinical relevance, and the blatant undermining of the ITT principle.
For some reason, I haven't been invited back since. Can't think why.
Absolute cowardly bastards.
Censorship of this kind is totally unacceptable.
The Ben Goldacre whose blog I used to follow (years ago now) seems to have switched sides. From highlighting 'bad medicine' & bad science to defending mad medicine & pseudo science. How & why did that happen? He certainly looks very well fed nowadays.
Here, I fixed the announcement for them. https://blastedreality.substack.com/p/just-a-quick-correction-for-an-event?sd=pf