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Norman and Jessica interview John Campbell
The YouTube sensation answers questions about his changing views on the covid narrative
Having been interviewed a few times by John Campbell in the last few months, earlier today I turned the tables and interviewed him (with the help of Jessica Rose).
John has become a major YouTube celebrity during the covid era (he now has nearly 2.8 million subscribers), but his views have changed dramatically over the 3 years from originally supporting most of the official narrative (including being opposed to the Great Barrington declaration) and especially the idea that the vaccines were safe and effective. I wanted to know what convinced him to promote the vaccines in the first place and what was the key thing that happened that made him change his mind.
John has come under attack from both sides of the covid debate. Initially from the skeptics who were unhappy that he seemed to be toeing the official Government line and then from the covidians who were unhappy that he could possibly question the official narrative especially on the safe and effective vaccines. But recently there have been some very public attacks from skeptics who suggest that his change of direction means he must be some kind of controlled opposition who is being handsomely rewarded financially (they publish his company accounts). I wanted to know his response to that.
Also, since John has made it clear many times that he has always been a very strong supporter of vaccinations generally I wanted to know if what he has had learnt about the pharma industry and its influence over the medical institutions and media over the covid vaccination had caused him to re-evaluate his beliefs about other vaccines or if he thought the covid debacle was a one-off.
There’s plenty more in the video, including the answer to who he would most like to meet or interview who he hasn’t already had on his channel.
Norman and Jessica interview John Campbell
In regard to 'voluntary informed consent'...consider the extraordinary pressure people in Australia were under to submit to the Covid vaccinations.
For example, here's Michael Gunner, then Chief Minister of the Northern Territory in November 2021, consider the way he is dictating to the people, and using the 'anti-vaxxer' labelling:
Reporter: "Do you think at all that your rhetoric around calling people anti-vaxxers, some of whom were vaccinated, has had an impact at all on vaccine take-up in parts of the Territory?"
Michael Gunner: "I'll repeat it. If you are anti-mandate you are absolutely anti-vax. I don’t care what your personal vaccination status is. If you support, champion, give a green light, give comfort to, support anybody who argues against the vaccine, you are an anti-vaxxer absolutely. Your personal vaccination status is utterly irrelevant. If you campaign against the mandate, if you campaign against people being vaccinated in vulnerable settings, teachers in classrooms, I'll be really clear, at that point in time, people are actually supporting the idea of a teacher being unvaccinated in a remote community classroom, with kids who can’t be vaccinated. I reject that, I still reject it. And if you are out there in any way, shape or form, campaigning against this mandate, you are absolutely anti-vax. If you, say, pro-persuasion, stuff it, shove it. We are absolutely going to make sure as many Territorians as possible are vaccinated, that is our best protection against this thing. And if you look at the Doherty modelling, that's only come out since, that said we'd be double dosed at 80, in remote communities, five and up. I think you'll see our vaccine mandate is absolutely crucial to protecting lives, particularly Aboriginal life. And I will never back away from supporting vaccines, and anyone out there, who comes for the mandate, you are anti-vax."
See: 'Stuff it, shove it': a furious Michael Gunner calls out those against vaccine mandates - video. The Guardian, 22 November 2021: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2021/nov/22/stuff-it-shove-it-a-furious-michael-gunner-calls-out-those-against-vaccine-mandates-video
My distrust in governments began when I read about the conscripted British troops during WW1 were ordered by their superior officers selected from the upper class, were ordered to charge German machine guns and poison gas that killing thousands of them per day 1914-1918 totaling one million dead and millions more permanently disabled. There was a missing generation of young men of reproductive age that left just as many spinsters who never had children.
At my primary school all my teachers were unmarried women. I sometimes think it was a deliberate strategy to cull the working class, who were getting too socialistically minded, and to head off a potential working class revolution.