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That was very interesting!

It's quite heartbreaking that people are dying all around the world because they got injected with an experimental "vaccine" which a few minutes searching the internet would have shown could not possibly be assumed to be safe. Even without the internet, it was simple common sense to realise that medications are not capable of being sufficiently tested for safety in less than a year. I don't think people will ever admit they injected themselves with poison because they allowed themselves to be scared witless over a bad cold virus. If the authorities start using data from the most recent 5 years then the excess deaths will look smaller than they are so nobody will do anything about it.

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May 19, 2023·edited May 19, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

Great presentation in Estonia, Prof. Neil!

The delink of COVID cases from excess deaths was most interesting, especially because it occurred when the dominant variant in circulation was one of reduced virulence: UK Tech Briefing #25 (Table 3; sequenced cases only) show Delta only 42% as lethal as Alpha, and follow-up studes on early Omicron showed it to be only 31% as lethal as Delta.

In other words, after COVID became a pussycat, the lion's share of excess deaths occurred.

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There is a tendency to blame things that can't be cleanly pinned to the vaccine on C19 instead as though it were some kind of get-out-of jail-free card. We have to bear in mind that C19, and indeed the strategies used to address it, were all man-made. Blaming C19 just broadens the group of people deserving of our ire.

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John Campbell, who is very careful on his statistics reporting and study overviews, has reported that there are very few people who had the virus that have developed heart conditions.

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I was in a store the other day and a 70 year old or so woman commented, to another woman , on how many people she knew who had died in the last two years. No thought in these people’s mind as to why.

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May 19, 2023·edited May 19, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

I strongly advise those interested in these matters to study the final graph in this presentation which clearly describes the mortality in the UK in 2020 compared with previous years. The increased rate took us back to those experienced within the previous the10 years when no NPIs we're deemed necessary. Of course then, there was no vaccine on the horizon either which might explain this inconsistency. However this presenter clearly shows very week evidence of a correlation between a country's vaccination rate and mortality in 2021. I worry that the uncomfortable expensive long wait for a jab was probably unnecessary.

Thanks so much for all your work shining light on this controversy.

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May 19, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

New York Times printed a chart of covid deaths in city compared to "spanish flu" ( everyone given new injection for flu to protect them from disease carrying soldiers returning from WW1). Chart showed covid as mole hill compared to Mount Everest of spanish flu. Due Diligence and art stack has details.

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Well done Martin! Sharing...

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Great to see Martin "in the flesh" as it were. Great speaking voice and charts! I especially liked the ones mapping excess deaths in orange and death shortfalls in blue - as I struggle with the tiny lines and dots on white backgrounds!

Data transparency and quality is a big issue for us all.

Not providing quality data leads to suspicion of a cover up, denies quality decision-making/analysis and leads to continuation of bad practice. Just like denial of free speech!

Well done! Look forward to the quality you (and the other fellow, haha) bring to the party!

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If you liked the orange/blue charts. I’m pretty sure they are generated from the link below. You can compare different baselines and counties as well. I think Martin mentioned in the Human Mortality Database in his presentation so I’m pretty sure they are from the same source.

https://mpidr.shinyapps.io/stmortality/

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Thanks!

I confess I clicked it off when it timed into the screen displays with 98% white on white - 1.9% colour shading in the gaps between two data series plotted against the x-axis. It all becomes a glare for one with my strength of vision! I view screens with white characters on a black background - easier to read.

Seems good for everyone else though!

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May 21, 2023·edited May 21, 2023

It doesn’t bother me either way. Though I do have a soft spot for white on blue, like they used to use on “blueprints”.

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May 19, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

is it not possible that something else explains the excess deaths, and that coincidentally, people were vaccinated? I would like to see a graph of the unvaccinated death rates for the same countries.

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The unvaccinated are not dying.... well not outside of normal anymore. Its so bad in NZ that the propaganda machine was telling everyone that so and so died unvaccinated at first, then suddenly once a lot were vaccinated and the "virus" died out they stopped reporting deaths as the vaccinated almost exclusively died. Currently running at 21% ( not reported of course)

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Have you got age adjusted excess mortality rates broken down by vaccination status? That is what is needed to prove your case. (It is really hard to get which is why I am sceptical of observational studies looking at vaccine safety. You really have to depend on the few trials and also subject matter expertise).

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May 20, 2023·edited May 20, 2023

We have a couple of issues there. 1 the NZ govt will not release that information, although the unusual spikes in excess deaths immediatly follow the jab dates. 2 the Data of people jabbed is faulty as they used only the known individuals who interacted with medical services in the 12 months prior. Although we have national medical numbers, hospitals have or had no way to share data ( unknown if linked yet as they have been trying). Mediacl Drs and Pharmacies do share and most of these did the jabs, apart from the strange pop up tents, at which data was not collected properly or identification done anyway as one guy got 10 or more for friends before being caught. 3 autopsies have been effectivly banned so reports by coroners cannot state if jabbed or not. 4 they dont count jabbed until 14 days after the date of the jab, very misleading so deaths in that period are counted as unvax anyway. From my personal experience 4 deaths in my small village 200 immediatly following jabs, 3 sudden 1 cancer. Several Heart attacks, diabetes and one in hospital now with colon and septis issues. Last month a young teen got a booster and died within 24 hrs. Most took for work as it was ( and still is in some) no jab no job. Lots of us here didnt take it and still havent had the C

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Thanks for your reply and link.

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perhaps gullibility is a factor in excess mortality, but how do you measure that for a whole population?

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May 19, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

An excellent presentation. Thanks for doing what you do.

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May 20, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

Fantastic clear presentation. Thank you!

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May 20, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

Is there a deeper analysis underlying this? As it stands surely it does no more than suggest there is something that might be worth looking at?

Why assume there is just one cause? Why assume it is the same cause in every country?

What about other potential causes? As you know, the most popular establishment explanation in the UK is that 2022 excess deaths are down to reluctance to use the health services during the epidemic and strain on the health service following the epidemic leading to late diagnosis and postponed treatment. The state of the health service in 2015 is of course irrelevant. So this possible cause has not been explored.

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May 20, 2023Liked by Martin Neil

Correct, causality for excess deaths has not been explored by the UK government because they know they will be blamed which ever way the causality is proven. All credible causes were under their control so they cannot win.

One minister made a vain attempt to blame excess deaths on the lack of availability of statins during the pandemic. This has been proven not to be true. We are governed by liars and frauds. The truth has to be exposed - It will never be admitted.

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Not just the UK, similar story here in Australia and I suspect elsewhere. Reminds me of Yes Minister.

https://youtu.be/5FRVvjGL2C0

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[VIDEO] If you want the BBC's official explanation to these excess deaths, here's a link to their trusty rottweiler Marianna Spring [disinformation and social media correspondent], spreading her own disgusting version of the truth:

https://wirralinittogether.blog/2023/05/20/video-x3-the-bbcs-disinformation-agent-marianna-spring-was-interviewed-by-daz-the-editor-of-the-light-newspaper/

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Thank you very much! I am deeply impressed by this comprehensive presentation of the international process. My own research (DE) points in the same direction. Life expectancy would probably be the best indicator in this context, but I realize the difficulties it leads to in country comparisons and how difficult it is to calculate. Confirmation from German data: https://ulflorr.substack.com/p/excess-mortality-and-life-expectancy

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.

The Vaccinated

Are Starting To Realize

That Once They Get Sick

They Are Not Going To Get Better.

The Freak-Out Has Begun.

.

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Lesson learned will be don't be retarded and inject experimental substances to virtue signal on Facebook with a vac card, I dont exactly have a lot of life experience at 24 but hell I knew these things take 10 to 15 years to be tested for 'safety'.

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Your comment sums it up nicely. Glad you didn't fall for the virtue signal trap.

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The Most Heavily Vaccinated People And Those

Injured The Most - Are Still Wearing Masks.

Enjoy This Moment. It Is Yours.

Because They Are The Same Fucked-Up Morons

That Wanted To Force Inject You; To Quarantine You; To Fire You; And To Deny You Medical Care. They Still Do.

So Tell Them - To Their Faces:

“Don’t Get Sick - Because You Won’t Get Better”

You Owe Yourself That.

They Are Not Getting Better. Make Them Hear It.

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It’s strange. My brother in law died with a cerebral haemorrhage and his wife had a detached retina after their jabs. No one in the family except myself and husband seem to think there is any connection. Thank you for your presentation.

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